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Just started this last night. Cut all the sprues and sanded smooth. Next I washed with warm soapy water to remove any oils and finger prints used latex gloves. I did pat dry with paper towels and then primed with a light gray auto primer. Then I realized that i should waited to prime bc I want to fill the gaps with putty. O well just re prime the edge again. Thats all for the moment. Going to get some more done tonight
Rusty, you'll have fun!
I love RDA kits - here's a picture of my Freeman Manufacturing build:
OOPS - my mistake, this kit was Camden Mercantile!!!
Thanks gnat. Everyone complains on the are a bear to build. A craftsman is just that it take some work to make em look good. This is my first one. Wanted to see for my self how difficult or not so bad they are.
A bit of work, and these can come out looking very respectable.
dave
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got everything taped off to paint the inside a dark color.
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Following along , these look different, and RDA kits aren't that expensive , they should do some in N-scale.
I'll also be following along. I have one of their kits which I'm hoping to work on over the winter. Seems to be good value for the money. Keep the progress photos coming.
I'm also following this threat I have bought several of these kits but have never built any RDA. You answered my first question about what kind of glue to use. Jim
Color me intrigued as well. It looks like an interesting structure with some nice stonework. I'll be following along. Thanks for sharing! :D
The plastic used in those kits seems to be somewhat impervious to solvent cements. I'd suggest gluing some styrene (1/4" if you have it) bracing inside the four corners to make sure it doesn't fall apart at some point :-(
The challenge is to fill and realign the stone corners. Someone posted a how-to for plaster kits, where you use tape to mask the walls leaving only the corner joint you're trying to fill. I've found "Bondo" (I have a small tube of the stuff) works well for this. Then recarve the stones to get a better corner fill.
To prepare for painting, I prime with artist gesso in white or gray (depending on what color you want for the mortar, you can always tint the gesso), and then use make-up sponges to paint the tops of the (deeply incised) stones. Alternately, you could use something like Pan Pastels.
I'm not fond of the thick/heavy metal roofing, so I built a new roof from styrene and covered it with slate shingles. In this model, I glued the two long walls together to produce a flat that goes against the backdrop, and installed a blank styrene wall behind it to "complete the box". The end overhangs a bit to hide the corner of the layout room.
dave
Rusty,
I'm checking in as well. I have one RDA kit so following this will be interesting. Great start also.
Tom ;D
thanks Dave for all the tips. I think the big problem most people face is the doors and windows not fitting but I have not got that far yet. Iwas also thinking on using bondo or epoxy sculpt for the joints And Recarve the stone.the bondo does work well it's easy to work And easy to carve as long as you do not let it set too long. I was also thinking about changing the roof as well.
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Did manage to get the seams filled in. Going to get more done tomorrow. Didnt have much time today.
Rusty...
I'm guessing that the Tamiya putty is very much like some stuff that is widely available called squadron putty.
It works well and carves easily. It has the same smell as the distillate based stuff called green stuff by the auto body people.
see ya
Bob
Dont know bob. 1st time using it. Ill keep you up to date on it. I am going to try to get some time in on it tonight.
Many years ago Testors made a white filler putty. Excess putty could be removed by gently rubbing with a finger dipped in alcohol. I am wondering if the Tamiya putty is similar to the Testors, or more like Squadron putty as suggested by Bob.
Quote from: jerryrbeach on November 17, 2014, 09:24:16 AM
Many years ago Testors made a white filler putty. Excess putty could be removed by gently rubbing with a finger dipped in alcohol. I am wondering if the Tamiya putty is similar to the Testors, or more like Squadron putty as suggested by Bob.
After looking on youtube and the web. It is like the squadron.
Keep at it Rusty. This is a "mission critical" thread because you are solving all the issues before I start my builds. Guess I better think about some of your products as a "thank you" gesture. Jim
Quote from: jrmueller on November 17, 2014, 11:05:06 AM
Keep at it Rusty. This is a "mission critical" thread because you are solving all the issues before I start my builds. Guess I better think about some of your products as a "thank you" gesture. Jim
No problem jim. Thats one of the reasons that I am doing this build. There are alot of people here that say that they are only good for kit bashing and thats it.. I seem to think so far that they have never built anything but laser kits. So I wanted to do it and see for myself. So far its a normal kit build. Nothing to extremely out of the ordinary. Glad to see more then a few are following along.
Do the instructions provide painting suggestions?
Gluing the walls together couldn't be that difficult. Painting the shiny plastic to look close to the dynamite photos on the RDA website is altogether different.
I'm curious about the painting process.
Jaime
Rusty...
Below is a photo of the corner of Jimmy's Fallberg station in hydrocal. I did this building some years ago on the old forum as a kit build. I used hydrocal to fill the seams.
A suggestion on your structure. Take some super fine sand paper and work down your putty until you first see the original cast stone. Then you can see what lines you want to use to connect over the seam. Random works well in breaking up the straight line.
If you don't like something you can always hit it with another pull of putty.
Let me know how it goes.
see ya
Bob
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Thats what I was planning on doing. I did start to sand it down a bit last night. Had to get some more sanding sticks today thought I had more I guess not. Thanks for the tip at least I was on the right track. The wall you did looks great
Sorry for the delay in post updates. I have been working out of town the last week on and off.back to it i started to use multiple sculpting tools to recarve the rocks and put a little to much pressure on a wall. It broke the epoxy so i currently have 2 walls together. Now instead of trying to cut new lines in the putty,i used a detail engraver that i picked up today. It made by Chicago tools. Purchased at harbor fright for 8 bucks. I could not be happier with the results. After playing around for about 20 mins this is where i am at
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Rusty, that corner seam looks super!
I got to get me one of them detail engraver tools - Harbor Freight makes me drool every
time I look at one of their ads or their catalog!!!
Now comes the tedious part - painting random stones in various shades of gray, tan, dull red,
and light blue will bring Rod Guthrie's fantastic rock work to life!!
I know that his wife and son miss him, but I hope it helps to know how much respect we still have
for his talent and skills!
Great joint...is that like a dremel tool?
John
Quote from: Cuse on November 29, 2014, 08:06:38 PM
Great joint...is that like a dremel tool?
John
thanks guys. And john yes it is. But the pen style engraver gives you more control of the tool. My dremel is way to big to hold somewhat steady.
Rusty,
Excellent job finishing up the corners. I cannot tell where you engraved the mortar lines, and where they join the factory mortar lines. I have a different RDA kit that utilizes the same stone walls, so I am very interested in your progress. Great tip about the pen engraver, think I'll add that to Santa's list!
I built a clapboard style RDA kit (The Riverbend Store) and the windows were not an exact fit, but with a little work, they look OK. I could not get the freight doors to fit as well as I wanted, so scratched some from styrene. I think I have it about half built, and just lost interest. Maybe I should add a longer attention span to Santa's list, too!
Quote from: jerryrbeach on November 29, 2014, 08:44:03 PM
Rusty,
Excellent job finishing up the corners. I cannot tell where you engraved the mortar lines, and where they join the factory mortar lines. I have a different RDA kit that utilizes the same stone walls, so I am very interested in your progress. Great tip about the pen engraver, think I'll add that to Santa's list!
I built a clapboard style RDA kit (The Riverbend Store) and the windows were not an exact fit, but with a little work, they look OK. I could not get the freight doors to fit as well as I wanted, so scratched some from styrene. I think I have it about half built, and just lost interest. Maybe I should add a longer attention span to Santa's list, too!
thanks jerry
Looking good, Rusty.
The seems look perfect.
Cheers, Mark.
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Up early today with coffee in hand headed down to the bench and sanded the seams.the seam was not to my likings so i added more putty. My mistake before happened when i was sanding so this time a used a piece of 2x4 lifted off the bench to suspend off the table while i sand. Now i cant slide my work up to the corner and have more support. No off to the train club open house is around the corner. I need time anyways to let the putty dry. Have a great day people
Its been a while for since last update.. works been nuts. Anyways. So here is the paint that i used.. sorry i didnt take more pics. I was unsure of the outcome. So first off i took a 2in wide sponge and covered the entire model with the mushroom color wash very little color. Did the same with the burnt sienna not in the pic but not over everthing. Then painted random with the other colors. Again very light washes and building the colors up. After all that was done i took the black even a lighter wash and went over the whole thing again. (https://modelersforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Frussellfawcett%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20141214_195540_zpse5xel0xw.jpg&hash=d8ce0ac954886f63a6082c01eaeff0632ffcd4f1)
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If you have some chalks or pastels, try applying some to individual stones. Stipple some color onto the stone then lightly spread it out. Don't forget to seal with something like Dullcote before applying any washes. Since Dullcote will tone down the stones, don't be afraid to somewhat 'overdue' the chalk colors.
dave
Thanks dave. Bc i was not completely satisfied with the way it was looking. I mean it looks good but not 100% to my liking. I was gonna play around with it tonight. And yes gettin a shot of dull coat. Thanks for the feedback. This is my first plastic / resin kit ever. So still learning how to paint with out getting the harsh painted look.
Thanks again
Rusty......
I can't find the thread from last week so I'll put this up here....
Regarding the locomotive that dumps to a short........ if the tender trucks are turned around 180 a locomotive can do that also.
see ya
Bob
Thanks bob. I did try that. Its been shipped out already. But i did try flipping them. Thanks again buddy
I honestly think there is a short in the harness
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Looking great!!
Rod Guthries's stone work is fantastic, isn't it ?? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Very nice.
Jaime
Rusty...
Really great...........
The stone work is great........ the color is great and the corners are really hidden well.
Very cool'
Thanx
Bob
Looks great! You didn't say exactly, but are these walls hydrocal, or resin?
And cheap emory boards work really well as sanding sticks.
Quote from: Randee on December 30, 2014, 06:07:01 AM
Looks great! You didn't say exactly, but are these walls hydrocal, or resin?
And cheap emory boards work really well as sanding sticks.
Hi randee.
This kit resin is resin.
Quote from: rustyfawcett on December 30, 2014, 06:56:29 AM
Quote from: Randee on December 30, 2014, 06:07:01 AM
Looks great! You didn't say exactly, but are these walls hydrocal, or resin?
And cheap emory boards work really well as sanding sticks.
Hi randee.
This kit resin is resin.
Thanks!
Hi rusty:
Looking good so far. Try this for filling your corners. blue painters tape down each of the corner. Get it as close to to opening as possible. Take fast & final spackling (The light stuff) on your finger and run it down the seam. remove ptape.
karl
Quote from: Randee on December 30, 2014, 07:27:50 AM
Quote from: rustyfawcett on December 30, 2014, 06:56:29 AM
Quote from: Randee on December 30, 2014, 06:07:01 AM
Looks great! You didn't say exactly, but are these walls hydrocal, or resin?
And cheap emory boards work really well as sanding sticks.
Hi randee.
This kit resin is resin.
Thanks!
I you read threw the last few pages there are tip on gluing and seam work. If you are planing on doing one of the rda kits I would take a look at it. I used 5 min epoxy and had to add 1/8/x1/8 styren for bracing in the corners and roughed up the glue area a bit. the first attempt did not hold well. the seams iI used tymia putty and recarved the corner stones with a detail engraver. hope it helps and glad you like it. I am happy to get the response on this that I am getting. this is my first plastic/ resin kit I have done. hpe to get some more done over the weekend. thanks for following along
Quote from: postalkarl on December 30, 2014, 07:47:15 AM
Hi rusty:
Looking good so far. Try this for filling your corners. blue painters tape down each of the corner. Get it as close to to opening as possible. Take fast & final spackling (The light stuff) on your finger and run it down the seam. remove ptape.
karl
thanks I will keep that in mind. how does it hold up. I didnt want it to chip away as the walls like to flex thats what broke the first expoxy
Really nice colouring on that stonework, Randy.
The kit is looking really good.
Cheers, Mark.
Quote from: mark dalrymple on December 30, 2014, 03:19:23 PM
Really nice colouring on that stonework, Randy.
The kit is looking really good.
Cheers, Mark.
Thanks mark. Just wondering ya called me randy. this is not this first time someone on here to called me that LOL. just wondering if I look like a randy HAHA
Quote from: rustyfawcett on December 30, 2014, 03:50:51 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on December 30, 2014, 03:19:23 PM
Really nice colouring on that stonework, Randy.
The kit is looking really good.
Cheers, Mark.
Thanks mark. Just wondering ya called me randy. this is not this first time someone on here to called me that LOL. just wondering if I look like a randy HAHA
Just be glad they are not calling you collect.
Jaime
Quote from: NEMMRRC on December 30, 2014, 03:54:51 PM
Quote from: rustyfawcett on December 30, 2014, 03:50:51 PM
Quote from: mark dalrymple on December 30, 2014, 03:19:23 PM
Really nice colouring on that stonework, Randy.
The kit is looking really good.
Cheers, Mark.
Thanks mark. Just wondering ya called me randy. this is not this first time someone on here to called me that LOL. just wondering if I look like a randy HAHA
Just be glad they are not calling you collect.
Jaime
I wouldnt answer
Surely you are joking!
I never joke. And stop calling me Shirley!
dave
Quote from: deemery on December 30, 2014, 05:33:54 PM
Surely you are joking!
I never joke. And stop calling me Shirley!
dave
Surely, you joke!