KC's Workshop Cerzullo's Fruit Packing Build

[ACL1504]

In order to further show you how this all can be a problem, I've taped the building together with the uneven roof panels and peaked wall sections.



I use blue painters tape for this as it is sticky enough to hold the walls but not so sticky it causes a problem when removed.



In the next photo you can see how the roof sections fit on the building. Well, actually they don't fit very well. This view is of the roof on the left rear. The front right roof panel looks like this as well.



This is how we work out the "kinks" and "tweak" the structure for a better model for future release.

More on the structure tomorrow. Thanks for taking this adventure with Kenny and me.

Tom

[Zephyrus52246]

Aren't you supposed to be building benchwork/laying track?   


Jeff

[Amagic41]

PLEASE NOTE:

By no means am I being derisive of Kenny or this particular kit. This build is to assit Kenny in getting the "kinks" out of the kit to make it a better structure and less of a problem for others to build.

For this reason, I'm going over everything in the build. Thus far the issues I've shared in the thread are ones that an adjustment to the CAD drawings and the laser cutting can resolve. I'm also making these notes with Kenny's permission. I've done the same with builds for Jimmy D. and Groovy Jeff of CCK fame.

Ok, I'll admit one of Jimmy's caught fire but it was Slims fault. He gave me some very bad advice.


Continuing with the build thread in a few.

Tom

Thanks Tom for doing this !!  Drawings have already been adjusted and being re cut  If you already purchased A Cerzullo's you'll be sent the re cut asap


Kenny

[martin.ojaste]

Tom, good catches.


It's these types of things that can frustrate a builder/customer. I like that you went through the parts to check everything was right. (I am just as fussy measuring each piece of strip wood and marking the "off" ones for non-critical uses or replacing it from my lumber yard.)


Can't wait to see the structure go together.


Marty

[ACL1504]

Aren't you supposed to be building benchwork/laying track?   


Jeff

Dr. Jeff,

Yes, most definitely; however, I needed a break as I found myself loosing interest for a few days. I told Kenny I'd start his kit early. I originally advised him I wouldn't be able to start the kit until the end of February of this year.

I'll be doing more on the layout later this afternoon. Thanks for checking in.

Tom

[ACL1504]

PLEASE NOTE:

By no means am I being derisive of Kenny or this particular kit. This build is to assit Kenny in getting the "kinks" out of the kit to make it a better structure and less of a problem for others to build.

For this reason, I'm going over everything in the build. Thus far the issues I've shared in the thread are ones that an adjustment to the CAD drawings and the laser cutting can resolve. I'm also making these notes with Kenny's permission. I've done the same with builds for Jimmy D. and Groovy Jeff of CCK fame.

Ok, I'll admit one of Jimmy's caught fire but it was Slims fault. He gave me some very bad advice.


Continuing with the build thread in a few.

Tom

Thanks Tom for doing this !!  Drawings have already been adjusted and being re cut  If you already purchased A Cerzullo's you'll be sent the re cut asap


Kenny

Kenny,

You are very welcome and I'm enjoying the build. I'm glad I could help.

Tom

[ACL1504]

Tom, good catches.


It's these types of things that can frustrate a builder/customer. I like that you went through the parts to check everything was right. (I am just as fussy measuring each piece of strip wood and marking the "off" ones for non-critical uses or replacing it from my lumber yard.)


Can't wait to see the structure go together.


Marty

Marty,

Thanks for looking in and following along. It's good to catch these things early. I've built so many structures that I often forget it all comes easy to me and can be very frustrating for a beginner modeler if unexpected changes need to be made.

I appreciate Kenny's confidence in letting me assist.

Tom

[ACL1504]

So both peaked roof pieces fit, I cut a piece for the opposite side. Here is what I did to get two like pieces.

I took one of the peaked roof pieces and placed it face down on some scrap stripwood. The stripwood matches what was in the kit.
NOTE: If you are making the new piece, the original piece needs to be placed scribed side down so you don't end up with a third like piece.



I then used a sharp pointed pencil and traced around the original piece.



I used a small metal ruler as a cutting guide and cut along the pencil line.



The two pieces were set aside for later use.

Continued in a few.

[ACL1504]

I was reading the instructions and read, "The rear roof section drops in the opening."

However, in reading further and comparing the instructions to the drawing, no provision was made or mentioned how the rear roof/deck was to be supported once dropped in.

The upper rear wall section has a single window and door opening laser cut into it. This wear wall section fits flush to the top of the side wall sections. Refer to the photo below for a "thousand words" explanation.



If it is to drop into the opening, then this particular wall section is to short. Here is how I fixed the problem. I measured down two (2) HO scale feet from the top of the lower rear and side walls.



I used a metal ruler as a guide and drew a pencil line on the back side of the walls.





Continued in a few.

[ACL1504]

This will be an easy fix for Kenny. The bracing diagrams will need to be changed to reflect the rear roof/deck panel brace location. Also, the rear wall section will need to be fixed and correctly cut.

Fortunately, as mentioned above, this is an extremely easy fix. Two (2) HO scale feet is the same as four (4) boards on the siding. I lowered the window and door opening four boards or the two HO scale feet. The original rear wall section is on the right and the new one has the window and door placed into the new openings.



Since this affects the bracing here is the new bracing positions.

NOTE: Since this model will be returned to Kenny to use for display purposes, I've added extra bracing. The extra bracing is noted in red in the followiong photo.

Notice also I've added the lower roof bracing marked in red.



Continued in a few.

[ACL1504]

Here is how the new roof "fix" looks in the rear of the structure. The new rear wall section is in place.



The rear roof panel now "drops" into the opening.



Now we have a nice fit for the door and roof.



More on this build tomorrow. Thanks for following along.

[ACL1504]

I know its not tomorrow but here is a quick little update. The instructions call for the peaked end to  be positioned as seen in the diagram below.





The back side is flush with the back wall letting the front hang over the front wall. Here is how it will look on the model.



I'm going to builld this model per the instructions. When I build mine, I'll center the peaked end with the wall as seen below.



Either way will be fine. If you decide to center the peaked end you'll need to adjust/change the rafter tails under the overhang.

[Dave K.]

Thanks for letting us ride shotgun on a test build. It's a good insight into the challenges of designing a kit and writing instructions. 👍

[Amagic41]

Dave ....sure is ! Bracing Diagram Check rear wall check roof check .......

[ACL1504]

Thanks for letting us ride shotgun on a test build. It's a good insight into the challenges of designing a kit and writing instructions.

Dave,

Building the model is fun as is being a build detective. I can't even imagine what all is involved in putting a kit together. It has to be hundreds of hours just to get the first one off and built.

However, Jeff Grove seems to be able to do it in one week of less.

Tom