Fixing a brass Erie 2-8-4, Class S-4 for Erieman

Started by ACL1504, February 12, 2017, 02:39:12 PM

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ACL1504

When I removed the gear box, I found that the grease was so old that it actually had hardened. I removed all the old grease, cleaned the gear box with Q-tips and Acetone, applied fresh lube/grease and oiled the bronze bushings.

For a loco that was build and imported back in the mid 1960, it was very common for some side to side gear box movement. Also, back then many of the wheels were hand pressed on the axles and thus it was possible to have a little wheel wobble.

NOTE: I'd like to mention Thom once again. He is only one of two brass guys that I ever knew who actually ever fixed the wheel wobble, no matter how slight, as well as placing thrust washers on the gear box.

For me, I pretty much left those two areas alone as long as the loco still ran smoothly. I've only used thrust washers twice in all the years. So you can get an idea of what all goes into getting a brass loco to run smoothly and quietly. That's why I said Thom is many cuts above me in brass repairs and painting.

This loco gear box is relatively new as far as use is concerned. I made a video to show the gear box and universal in action. I've seen gear boxes that move so much from side to side that it looks like the gear box housing would touch the loco frame on both sides.

You can see there is a just a hint of side to side movement and I say this one is tight. Notice also the second set of drivers wobble while the loco is running. To me, this wobble isn't enough to worry about or change. The side rods and mechanism is very smooth.

If you have good hearing, you can hear my Doo-Wop 50's music in the back ground.

Reviving the gear box, cleaning wheels and lubricating the journal and side rods - two hours  Add $50.00.

Running total now $237.50.

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Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

ACL1504

My video has been blocked by SME, Sony Music Entertainment, due to me not giving them credit for owning the dang song.

I'll redo the video, without their D--N music in the background.

I'll add the new video in the morning.

I apologize for the inconvenience.
"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

tct855

SME,
             Just like Tom to try to save a couple Nichols on copyright music. ha.  Tom you can afford to rent the music, after all with all the high money you charge for working on brass engines. T...

Zephyrus52246

Sony Music must have very acute hearing.   ;D   


Jeff

S&S RR

Tom


It sure sounds like the Erieman is going to have a great running locomotive when you get done.


The copyright thing is really funny.  I wonder if they are going to try to invoice you? 


Give Howard Zane a call - I'm sure he has some great music that he will loan you for a brass locomotive video.
John Siekirk
Superior & Seattle Railroad

Erieman

Quote from: S&S RR on February 17, 2017, 08:37:50 AM
Tom


It sure sounds like the Erieman is going to have a great running locomotive when you get done.


The copyright thing is really funny.  I wonder if they are going to try to invoice you? 


Give Howard Zane a call - I'm sure he has some great music that he will loan you for a brass locomotive video.


Yes,
Like Howard on the banjo!!!


Frank / Erieman

tct855

Banjos?
            Did someone mention Banjos? 
                                                             Hummm?

GPdemayo

Gregory P. DeMayo
General Construction Superintendent Emeritus
St. Louis & Denver Railroad
Longwood, FL

ReadingBob

If you'd like Greg and I would be willing to come down and sing in two part disharmony so you'd have some legal, if not intolerable, background music.   ;D
Bob Butts
robertbutts1@att.net

There's a fine line between Hobby and Mental Illness.

S&S RR

John Siekirk
Superior & Seattle Railroad

ACL1504

Quote from: tct855 on February 16, 2017, 08:26:57 PM
SME,
             Just like Tom to try to save a couple Nichols on copyright music. ha.  Tom you can afford to rent the music, after all with all the high money you charge for working on brass engines. T...


Thom,



SME must have pretty good hearing to hear what little was being played. They can keep their stinking music. Maybe I should charge more. After all, it's time for more diapers.

Tom ;D
"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

ACL1504

Quote from: Zephyrus52246 on February 16, 2017, 09:32:46 PM
Sony Music must have very acute hearing.   ;D   


Jeff


Jeff,

You are correct. And, I might add greed to the mix.

Tom ;D
"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

ACL1504

Quote from: S&S RR on February 17, 2017, 08:37:50 AM
Tom


It sure sounds like the Erieman is going to have a great running locomotive when you get done.


The copyright thing is really funny.  I wonder if they are going to try to invoice you? 


Give Howard Zane a call - I'm sure he has some great music that he will loan you for a brass locomotive video.


John,

Frank will be very happy with this one. I deleted my wonderful video with their stinking music. Can't very well invoice me if they blocked the music.

I do have one of Howard's CDs and he is playing the banjo. I'm not chancing doing another one with music although unlike SME, Howard would be pleased.

Tom ;D
"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

ACL1504

Quote from: Erieman on February 17, 2017, 10:01:11 AM
Quote from: S&S RR on February 17, 2017, 08:37:50 AM
Tom


It sure sounds like the Erieman is going to have a great running locomotive when you get done.


The copyright thing is really funny.  I wonder if they are going to try to invoice you? 


Give Howard Zane a call - I'm sure he has some great music that he will loan you for a brass locomotive video.


Yes,
Like Howard on the banjo!!!


Frank / Erieman


Frank,

Howard does play a mean banjo. I've heard him live and on the CD, he is really talented. His wife, Sandy, plays the fiddle and their group is called the "The New Southern Cowtippers."

Tom ;D


"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

ACL1504

Quote from: tct855 on February 17, 2017, 11:22:18 AM
Banjos?
            Did someone mention Banjos? 
                                                             Hummm?


WHAT THE ????!
"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

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