John Mancuso's C-19 Narrow Gauge 2-8-0

Started by ACL1504, October 05, 2014, 12:02:49 PM

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ReadingBob

Wow!   :o  That little engine looked good before Tom went to work on it.  Now it looks GREAT!   ;D
Bob Butts
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Quote from: ACL1504 on November 09, 2014, 05:12:54 PM
Okay, let's weather this little gem. I hope this doesn't become a long screed but I need to mention some weathering ideas/thoughts/concepts or whatever.

Weathering is very subjective in nature in reference to models. What one person sees as light weathering anothers may see as medium, medium heavy or even heavy.

When I was professionally painting brass for customers, I stopped asking about the degree of weathering as most didn't know what I meant. I then asked if they wanted the loco to look out shopped, used and clean, used and not clean, used but not abused or used and abused.

Here is my opinion on weathering.

Out shopped and no weathering - Brass Frisco 4-8-2. Greg DeMayo wants this loco when I go to meet the big Engineer in the sky!





Used and clean, light weathering - Plastic Bachmann Spectrum 2-8-0.



Used and not clean, light to medium weathering. - Brass 2-10-0.



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Hey Tom.....as much as I would love to have that great steamer on the StL&D, I much prefer coming down to visit you and the A&S and drool.  :)
Gregory P. DeMayo
General Construction Superintendent Emeritus
St. Louis & Denver Railroad
Longwood, FL

ACL1504

Quote from: gnatshop on November 10, 2014, 07:20:31 PM
Quote from: ACL1504 on November 10, 2014, 06:32:53 PM


Gman, was correct in that it does look a bit yellow in the photo. But have no worries John, the loco won't be yellow - I hope!
Glad that you relieved John's mind - I was beginnin' to hear him singin' 'Yellow Locomotive, Yellow Locomotive'  to the
tune of The Beatle's Yellow Submarine - that wasn't fun listenin' to what he called 'singin'!!  ::) ::) ::)

Thanks Gman,

Now I can't get the dang song out of my mind. Here's one for you, Disney's "It's a small world"!

Anytime I can help, ya know.

Tom ;D 
"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
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ACL1504

Quote from: Cuse on November 10, 2014, 10:51:10 PM
:) :D ;D


Looks great, excellent info as well.


Thanks Tom

John

John,

Thanks, I'll see you either Thursday or Friday!

Tom ;D
"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

ACL1504

Quote from: ReadingBob on November 11, 2014, 07:40:01 AM
Wow!   :o  That little engine looked good before Tom went to work on it.  Now it looks GREAT!   ;D

Bob,

Thanks for checking in on the weathering. John will be taking possession of the little gem later in the week. Update later this evening.

Tom ;D
"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

ACL1504

Hey Tom.....as much as I would love to have that great steamer on the StL&D, I much prefer coming down to visit you and the A&S and drool.  :)

Greg,

I understand but I'm just saying. I hope I out live you! I'll get to keep it longer that way! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) Tom ;D
"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

ACL1504

NOTE:

For those of you who PM'd or emailed me with your questions, I hope I was helpful. Also, I'm very honored and humble you want my to weather/paint or repair your locos but I just can't take on the work.
Also, please note I no longer paint and weather locos. I did it for some 35+ years but now spend the time working on the Atlantic & Southern, my railroad model. I will once in a blue moon paint brass or weather one for a Saturday Butty Group Member, SBG, but only if I have one of my own I'm painting.

John Mancuso, Cuse on the forum, is a member in good standing of the SBG. And, I've made an offer several years ago to Erieman (Frank Baker), to send me his basket case and have me paint, fix or whatever it needs. The offer is still open.

Other than that, I just don't have the time for any others.

Tom 8)
"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

ACL1504

Let me mention more concerning the pastel chalks for weathering. I use these as they are easy to use and can be moved around on the model.

NOTE: It's probably not a good idea to use the Bragdon powders for weathering your looo. Bragdon powders are excellent for weathering but they contain an adhesive that bonds the powders to the loco paint, structures, etc. and can't be removed. Once applied, you have permanent pigment on the model. I would say that only experienced modelers, with regards to loco weathering, should use the Bragdon powders.

Here's an excellent piece of advice concerning weathering. Unless you have many years of experience weathering locos, start off with very little weathering on the model and add more as you go. It's easier to add more chalk than to remove to much chalk.

Also, take note that when the model is finished off with a flat or dull coat, the flat/dull coat will hide some of the weathering chalks.

Now that everyone is confused, I've done my part.

Tom ;D
"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

ACL1504

With the spray nozzle set and using the grimy mix, I made a few horizontal passes on the loco drivers, tender trucks and lower sides of the tender and up under the running boards.

I then made a few light passes of paint vertically on the boiler, cab sides, tender sides and the end of the tender.







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"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
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John wanted the caboose weathered but not to the extreme as the loco. He wanted a caboose that was cared for but had a few days road grime. To achieve this effect, I made two passes on the caboose trucks and two passes on the lower sides of the caboose.

As you can see the weathering is very light on the sides of the caboose.



I forgot to show you the front of the loco where the pilot was sprayed with the grime.



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"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

ACL1504

After the grimy colors dried I mixed a small bottle of Floquil Weathered Black and Grimy Black. I think these are the same color as I couldn't tell a difference but I made a mix of 50/50 anyway!



Using the weathered black mix, I adjusted the spray in the same manner as I did the grimy colors. However, this time when sprayed, I made short vertical passes on the drivers, boiler, pilot, cab sides, steam chest, steam cylinders smoke stack, smoke box sides and tender sides.





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"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

ACL1504

On the caboose I made one pass on the sides and ends of the caboose. I made one pass on the trucks as well. Here is the finished caboose. I also made one pass down the top (not shown) of the caboose to represent coal soot.









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"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

ACL1504

Here are a few pictures of the almost finished look of the loco.







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"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

ACL1504

"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

gnatshop

Quote from: ACL1504 on November 11, 2014, 03:57:58 PM
NOTE:
For those of you who PM'd or emailed me with your questions, I hope I was helpful. Also, I'm very honored and humble you want my to weather/paint or repair your locos but I just can't take on the work.
Other than that, I just don't have the time for any others.    Tom 8)
Naww, you don't!!
We're all waitin' to see trains rollin' around the Atlantic and Southern again!!!
Hopin' that full time retirement moves that up on the Priority List again - sorry to The Babe, but we're
a demandin' bunch!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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