Another brass loco project - repairs and painting.

Started by ACL1504, February 07, 2016, 05:35:48 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

ACL1504

"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

ACL1504

I forgot to mention I used Campbell's Engineer and Fireman for the cab crew. However; to change the crew look, I repainted the shirts from a light blue to a darker blue.

Engineer -



Fireman -

"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

jbvb

A little more about Temp-Low, Cerro Bend and other low-melting-point alloys:  If you heat them only till you have enough liquid metal to do the job, they're not going to damage much.  But if you accidentally keep heating the liquid, it'll get hotter, and all bets are off.
James

tom.boyd.125


Tom,
  This thread really gets your wheels turning !  Lots of info that I was never aware of or tried before.  ;)
Tom Boyd in NE Minnesota
tommytrains22@yahoo.com

Erieman

Tom,
Another beautiful job, my friend. It is great to see all the engines you have in you painting area. Simply marvelous.

Frank / Erieman

jimmillho

Tom,
If you EVER run out of Engines to paint, just remember how many unpainted ones I have. 8) 8) 8) 8)

Jim

ACL1504

Quote from: jbvb on March 08, 2016, 10:35:40 PM
A little more about Temp-Low, Cerro Bend and other low-melting-point alloys:  If you heat them only till you have enough liquid metal to do the job, they're not going to damage much.  But if you accidentally keep heating the liquid, it'll get hotter, and all bets are off.


James,

Thanks for checking in and adding to the thread. I've never had an over heating issue with the Templow and hope never to have one. 8) 8) 8)


I wouldn't be to keen on repainting the boiler after melting the paint. :'( :'(


Tom ;D
"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

ACL1504

Quote from: tom.boyd.125 on March 09, 2016, 03:45:36 AM

Tom,
  This thread really gets your wheels turning !  Lots of info that I was never aware of or tried before.  ;)


Tom,

Thanks for the kind words and for following along. I'm happy you are getting some new ideas.

Tom ;D
"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

ACL1504

Quote from: Erieman on March 09, 2016, 10:10:43 AM
Tom,
Another beautiful job, my friend. It is great to see all the engines you have in you painting area. Simply marvelous.

Frank / Erieman


Frank,

Thanks for the kind words kind sir. I'm finally coming down to the last one. Well, maybe the penultimate one.         

Tom ;D
"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

ACL1504

Quote from: jimmillho on March 09, 2016, 11:19:06 AM
Tom,
If you EVER run out of Engines to paint, just remember how many unpainted ones I have. 8) 8) 8) 8)

Jim


Jim,

You know I'll never run out of brass to paint and you have your stash as well. For you Jimbo, I'll paint whatever you need done. Just let me know.

Tom ;D
"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

ACL1504

I guess it's time for a little update on the painting of the brass 4-6-2. The early PFM/United brass pacifics came with the old open frame  Pitman DC-70X motor. This loco came out in 1963 and had a retail price of $60.00.



I removed the open frame motor and installed a new NWSL Sagami 30X32mm can motor.



The smokebox front has a foot step missing and I'm just going to leave it off. In fact, it appears it was never on. There is no sign of any solder around the back of the step. You can see the small hole on the right.



Also, you can see the goofy looking markers lights on the front. I'll remove them and replace them with something more appealing.

Continued in a few.
"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

ACL1504

Due to the fact the open frame motor was so large, PFM didn't add any back head details. Actually the early brass didn't have back head details of any kind.

I didn't want the can motor to show so I used some of the old brass I cut many years ago for other back head details.



I went very basic on the details as they won't show that much but I needed to have a few details in the cab.



Continued in a few.
"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

ACL1504

Fast forward and the back head is now painted as well as the locomotive frame and side rods, etc and etc.



"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

S&S RR

Tom


You have been very busy - I'm finding the threads on brass locomotives very interesting.  Are you also finding time to work on the layout?
John Siekirk
Superior & Seattle Railroad

RWL

Tom,

On USRA designs there was only one foot step on the front of the smokebox, the spare hole should be filled. PFM probably used the same casting for other engines and was cutting costs (not every PFM model was accurate). If there was a step on the fireman's side it would have prototypically restricted the swing of the smokebox door. Also the step that is there should have a angled 30 degree support gusset mounted on the outside of the step. By the way those markers aren't goofy looking, crude, but not goofy.

One suggestion to this thread.

I am sure there are many following along that would like a synopsis as to your methods of preparation, fault finding, disassembly, painting, assembly, tuning, and final finish. A check list for their use instead of going through pages and pages that have been posted over the past few years and most recently. You have covered many engines over the pages and you offer something different with every engine and every engine has its own character. I know how I do it, you and I don't vary much, but I don't post that much. I am sure your public would appreciate it and before I get stones thrown my way, remember every day is a Saturday!

Bob

Powered by EzPortal