Franklin & South Manchester Railroad - 2016 - From the Air.

Started by S&S RR, April 06, 2016, 08:07:16 PM

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jrmueller

John - thanks again. More ideas for making buildings unique.  Jim
Jim Mueller
Superintendent(Retired)
Westchester and Boston Railroad

iCletus

Explanation I missed previously ...  all makes sense now. Thanks

ak-milw

I don't know if I should put this on here or not, but the cyclone on top of the chemical company would never work.

Janbouli

Many thanks John , best thread on any model train forum ever.
I love photo's, don't we all.

S&S RR

Quote from: ak-milw on January 21, 2017, 03:07:23 PM
I don't know if I should put this on here or not, but the cyclone on top of the chemical company would never work.


Andy


George is an artist.  Sometimes what looks right - doesn't get past the Engineering Department.  Trust me on this - I spent my career telling artists (automotive designers) that their design looks beautiful but we can't make it work. I think adding the comment here is appropriate - if you add what you would do to change it to make it work - this is a modelers forum and we like to get everything right. 


George reads this and don't be surprised if the next time we visit the F&SM the cyclone has been changed.  George believes in continuous improvement. 
John Siekirk
Superior & Seattle Railroad

S&S RR

Quote from: Janbouli on January 21, 2017, 04:19:27 PM
Many thanks John , best thread on any model train forum ever.


Jan


Thanks for the kind words.  At least it's the best layout -  ;) 
John Siekirk
Superior & Seattle Railroad

ak-milw

Quote from: S&S RR on January 21, 2017, 07:05:09 PM
Quote from: ak-milw on January 21, 2017, 03:07:23 PM
I don't know if I should put this on here or not, but the cyclone on top of the chemical company would never work.


Andy


George is an artist.  Sometimes what looks right - doesn't get past the Engineering Department.  Trust me on this - I spent my career telling artists (automotive designers) that their design looks beautiful but we can't make it work. I think adding the comment here is appropriate - if you add what you would do to change it to make it work - this is a modelers forum and we like to get everything right. 


George reads this and don't be surprised if the next time we visit the F&SM the cyclone has been changed.  George believes in continuous improvement.

John, The collector on top of the chemical building is called a Cyclone. What it does is gather the product supplied by the upper tubes, which are ok on the model, the only one with a problem would be the back tube that attaches to another tube and not the Cyclone. As the material passes into the Cyclone it starts to swirl hence the name. As it turns it drops down the funnel. George has all the supply tubes in the middle of the funnel, so the material would just spin by it and not go down the tubes. The tubes should be attached to the bottom of the funnel inside the building and there, threw a diverter, can be sent to where ever it has to go. The only modeling problem is that all the lower tubes would not be there giving the model less of a industry look. A fix would be to raise the Cyclone and put a diverter at the bottom then run the pipes where they need to go. Sorry this is a little long winded but that's how it has to work in the real world.

S&S RR

Quote from: ak-milw on January 21, 2017, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: S&S RR on January 21, 2017, 07:05:09 PM
Quote from: ak-milw on January 21, 2017, 03:07:23 PM
I don't know if I should put this on here or not, but the cyclone on top of the chemical company would never work.


Andy


George is an artist.  Sometimes what looks right - doesn't get past the Engineering Department.  Trust me on this - I spent my career telling artists (automotive designers) that their design looks beautiful but we can't make it work. I think adding the comment here is appropriate - if you add what you would do to change it to make it work - this is a modelers forum and we like to get everything right. 


George reads this and don't be surprised if the next time we visit the F&SM the cyclone has been changed.  George believes in continuous improvement.

John, The collector on top of the chemical building is called a Cyclone. What it does is gather the product supplied by the upper tubes, which are ok on the model, the only one with a problem would be the back tube that attaches to another tube and not the Cyclone. As the material passes into the Cyclone it starts to swirl hence the name. As it turns it drops down the funnel. George has all the supply tubes in the middle of the funnel, so the material would just spin by it and not go down the tubes. The tubes should be attached to the bottom of the funnel inside the building and there, threw a diverter, can be sent to where ever it has to go. The only modeling problem is that all the lower tubes would not be there giving the model less of a industry look. A fix would be to raise the Cyclone and put a diverter at the bottom then run the pipes where they need to go. Sorry this is a little long winded but that's how it has to work in the real world.


Andy


I think I know what you mean but is there a possibility you could post a picture?
John Siekirk
Superior & Seattle Railroad

ak-milw

It was hard to find just a simple picture but this might work



in the picture the product is feed into the grinder, seeing this is a feed mill set up by the auger on the left. The feed goes through the grinder into the blower right next to it. Then by using air power it blows the product up the tube and into the cyclone. The product enters the cyclone from the side and spins down into the funnel and out the bottom. Now if you want to send it more places than one you add a pipe deverter to the bottom of the funnel. The deverter looks like a spider. the product goes into it's back and can be sent through whatever leg you want it to go. In the mill I run, our grinder and blower is15 feet below ground level. the blower has a 75 hp motor on it, it blows feed through a 12 inch pipe straight up for 75 feet then horizontaly for 50 feet into our roof cyclone, then down into the mixers. The reason I call the deverter a spider is because that is what we call ours, it has eight legs. So basicly anything that goes into the cyclone HAS to come out the very bottom of the funnel. I knew I shouldn't of said anything!!

S&S RR

Quote from: ak-milw on January 23, 2017, 09:24:19 PM
It was hard to find just a simple picture but this might work



in the picture the product is feed into the grinder, seeing this is a feed mill set up by the auger on the left. The feed goes through the grinder into the blower right next to it. Then by using air power it blows the product up the tube and into the cyclone. The product enters the cyclone from the side and spins down into the funnel and out the bottom. Now if you want to send it more places than one you add a pipe deverter to the bottom of the funnel. The deverter looks like a spider. the product goes into it's back and can be sent through whatever leg you want it to go. In the mill I run, our grinder and blower is15 feet below ground level. the blower has a 75 hp motor on it, it blows feed through a 12 inch pipe straight up for 75 feet then horizontaly for 50 feet into our roof cyclone, then down into the mixers. The reason I call the deverter a spider is because that is what we call ours, it has eight legs. So basicly anything that goes into the cyclone HAS to come out the very bottom of the funnel. I knew I shouldn't of said anything!!


Thanks Andy - This explanation should help anyone modeling this special detail.
John Siekirk
Superior & Seattle Railroad

S&S RR

John Siekirk
Superior & Seattle Railroad

S&S RR

John Siekirk
Superior & Seattle Railroad

S&S RR

John Siekirk
Superior & Seattle Railroad

S&S RR

John Siekirk
Superior & Seattle Railroad

S&S RR

John Siekirk
Superior & Seattle Railroad

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