Superior & Seattle Railroad Build

[bparrish]

John

Great building

Thanx
Bob

[Janbouli]

Now  don't waste time reading replies here, keep going , we want to see more asap 

[S&S RR]

John

Great building

Thanx
Bob

Thanks Bob - I hope your trip is going well. I'm missing my steam engine build updates.

[S&S RR]

Now  don't waste time reading replies here, keep going , we want to see more asap 

Okay - but I needed to come in to my office and get some information for my next build.  I'm currently designing the companion building to the Roundhouse which will be the S&S Locomotive Works located just across the mainline tracks. I needed some dimensions off the Roundhouse. Thanks for watching the thread

[bparrish]

John.

Stop holding your breath and turning blue. 

I'll get home in mid October and get back at it.  If I could have talked Viv into carrying mt lathe with me I would have. She didn't think it was funny. 

I really anxious to get back to the winch gears. 

See ya
Bob

[S&S RR]

I have a question for the forum.  Does anyone have experience painting over Floquil paint with the new Acrylics?  I just emptied my last bottle of Floquil Grimy Black paint on my Stone Roundhouse Roof.  As you can see in the picture it is still drying.  The whole time I was painting I thought I had one more bottle of Floquil for the second coat.  As it turns out, I do not. The only Grimy black paint I have in stock is the MicroLux Acrylic that I bought for a test.  I'm not real interested in testing on this roof  .  Does anyone have any experience?

[DACS]

I am not sure I understand the question, but, I have painted over old floquil with acrylics and have had no chemical reaction issues.  However, by brush, acrylics do not want to cover the old color in one coat.  I cannot speak for airbrushing.
Also, it will be very difficult to get a match to what you have already done.  It is a very good idea not to experiment with your finished roof.
I have found that Acrylic flats,  do not seem to dry as flat as one expects.
These things are just my finding and my opinions.
Hope this helps.
The roundhouse is really looking mighty fine John!!

Dave HWCRR
Seattle

[S&S RR]

I am not sure I understand the question, but, I have painted over old floquil with acrylics and have had no chemical reaction issues.  However, by brush, acrylics do not want to cover the old color in one coat.  I cannot speak for airbrushing.
Also, it will be very difficult to get a match to what you have already done.  It is a very good idea not to experiment with your finished roof.
I have found that Acrylic flats,  do not seem to dry as flat as one expects.
These things are just my finding and my opinions.
Hope this helps.
The roundhouse is really looking mighty fine John!!

Dave HWCRR
Seattle

Dave

Thanks for the input - I'm going to do a test today and I will post the results tomorrow. We are going to see how well the paints match.

[S&S RR]

Well today was the day for testing.  First the Readingbob A&I tub got a workout making pine tree armatures. It worked well and I was able to get the A&I back in the storage bottle with no spills.

[S&S RR]

The second test for the day was the acrylic grimy black paint over the floquil grimy black. The good news was no major problems with putting acrylic over solvent based paint. The bad news is that the color match wasn't even close. I also think the acrylic drys with more shine - it is not as flat as the floquil.  Here are a couple pictures.


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The first four and 1/4 rows have a second coat of the acrylic over the first coat of floquil grimy black.





After seeing the color difference I decided to paint the entire roof surface with the acrylic paint so I will start with the same base coat.  Tomorrow I will learn how to weather this new acrylic paint to get rid of the shine and get the look I'm after.  My supply of Floquil paints will soon be gone so it's time to get back on the learning curve.  You can bet that I will be checking paint supply before I use another bottle of the Floquil.

[cuse]

Since Reading Bob didn't get a stall on the Roundhouse of Fame, perhaps there's room for a plaque on the A&I trough.





John

[S&S RR]

Since Reading Bob didn't get a stall on the Roundhouse of Fame, perhaps there's room for a plaque on the A&I trough.





John

Great idea John.  I think the names of many of the forum members will find their way onto structures as they start to go up around the layout.

[GPdemayo]

Hey John,

I really prefer oils and like everyone else, need to find an alternate vendor. I came across True-Color Paint on the Internet, but haven't bought any as yet. Maybe someone else who has used them can give us some info about their quality, matches to Floquil, etc.

Below is their website.
http://www.trucolorpaint.com/index.php?p=1_22_Color-Chart

I have the "pdf" color sample files they sent me, they are in 4 files of about 6 megs total.

If you or anyone else wants them, send your e-mail address to me at demayoind@aol.com and I'll get them to you. Please include some info, like True-Paint, in the subject line so I won't think it's junk mail and delete it.

[S&S RR]

Hey John,

I really prefer oils and like everyone else, need to find an alternate vendor. I came across True-Color Paint on the Internet, but haven't bought any as yet. Maybe someone else who has used them can give us some info about their quality, matches to Floquil, etc.

Below is their website.
http://www.trucolorpaint.com/index.php?p=1_22_Color-Chart

I have the "pdf" color sample files they sent me, they are in 4 files of about 6 megs total.

If you or anyone else wants them, send your e-mail address to me at demayoind@aol.com and I'll get them to you. Please include some info, like True-Paint, in the subject line so I won't think it's junk mail and delete it.

Thanks Greg

I sent you a PM with my email address.  I agree with you on the acrylic paint in this application  - Way to shinny and the color didn't match floquil. It may just be the floquil underneath that is causing the problem, but I did find a great solution to the problem for my roundhouse roof.  I will post pictures and a description of the process on this thread tonight.  Thanks again for your help.

[deemery]

You could have problems matching even one run of Floquil against another (particularly 'new Floquil' after Testors took over, vs the old independent Floquil - don't forget they changed the solvent/medium, 'new' Dio-sol wasn't quite the same formulation due to cancer/toxicity concerns...)  The Tru Color paints are nice, but they're pretty much airbrush-only.  (Although I haven't tried brush painting the new flats.)  Some of the shine issues are just a property of acrylic medium, that can be solved with the application of Dullcote or similar flat finish.  Note a lot of oil paints also dry with a sheen.  I guess I just plan to do a final matte coat no matter what kind of paint I'm using. 

dave