EXPO 2015

[ranny9]

It's difficult to do a photo category for a show the size of Expo.
Jaime

Not so difficult. 11"x14", not framed, color, a) model, b) prototype

Difficult as in only 2 or 3 people ever enter. And, they enter the same photos each year.

Jaime

That's why others don't ...same entries, same winners, every year. As I said before the EXPO in Lancaster in 2012, winners should not be able to enter the same ol', same 'ol, year after year. New and fresh, give us beginners a chance to compete.

[NEMMRRC]

I believe anyone could have competed with the past Expo photo contest entries. But I understand where you're coming from.

What I see as difficult for the photo contest is to get enough BUILDERS interested in NOT building and instead taking photos. The Expo draws builders more than any other crowd. At the NMRA and NNGC there are as many prototype rail fans as there are modelers. And rail fans take LOTS of pictures.

That is what I meant by difficult.

I'm about to express unpopular opinion so be warned.

Why should the best builders in the hobby step out of a contest so a "beginner" can "compete"? I go to Expo to view the best of the best in the contest room. I mean, who would go to the Super Bowl to watch their church league football teams compete?

Jaime

[robertseckler]

It's difficult to do a photo category for a show the size of Expo.
Jaime

Not so difficult. 11"x14", not framed, color, a) model, b) prototype

Difficult as in only 2 or 3 people ever enter. And, they enter the same photos each year.

Jaime

Jamie

Thank You

If I said it I would get in trouble!!!

[robertseckler]

Robert- You guys are way out front again!  My two cents worth- I think the limit on size is a good one, and 2 ft x 3 ft is probably good for the large diorama category. The NNGC went to this last year, and though initially I didn't like it I found it made a lot of sense as most hotel display tables are two ft wide. Larger dioramas would have to get their own display table and perhaps more access. Also, larger than 2x3 would preclude any entries other than those that could be driven to the contest.

Also, since there is no module category, if the Florida guys bring the Sundance Central, could it be entered as a "big diorama" if there is no limit?

And my last input- I'd like to see the return of the 12x12, probably in place of the 8x8. I think there were only a few entries in 8x8, and as I recall the 12x12 was a popular category in Lancaster. 12x12 would also allow the O scale and larger folks a chance.

Mike

Still working it all out!!

We thought by increase one size and decreasing another it leveled field.

I value all opinion,
Mike I would like to  pick your brain off line if that is OK

Send me a e- mail and I will give you my cell number!!

Thanks

[robertseckler]

It's difficult to do a photo category for a show the size of Expo.
Jaime

Randee

I understand your concerns.

And that is why I keep adjusting rules & categorizes

We have a rule now that states if any entry takes 1, 2 or 3 place they CAN NOT enter it in the contest again.

I can tell you this no enter won this year that placed at last years EXPO.

We had someone that enter a similar photo that placed last year , but it was a new photo taken from a different angle.

Technically it is a different enter. ( Really a loop hole in the rules)

Now I would not do that and neither would you probably.

So if you  have a specific entry you know about please bring it to my attention.

Also lets remember this is a Hobby and we are to enjoy it.

Thanks



Not so difficult. 11"x14", not framed, color, a) model, b) prototype

Difficult as in only 2 or 3 people ever enter. And, they enter the same photos each year.

Jaime

That's why others don't ...same entries, same winners, every year. As I said before the EXPO in Lancaster in 2012, winners should not be able to enter the same ol', same 'ol, year after year. New and fresh, give us beginners a chance to compete.

[NEMMRRC]

I'm not the competitive type. But, if I were to enter a contest I'd do it to see how well could I placed against the best of the best. And if I returned in subsequent years I'd want to bring an entry that was better than my last. But that is just me. I'm sure there are many that enter because they love collecting trophies. Also, the $1,000 prize is an incentive.

It was mentioned earlier elsewhere that maybe there ought to be a section for display only. Entries not wishing to be judged but wishing to be seen. Maybe one of those can be added to the contest room or show floor. I could bring some of my late buddy Pieczyk's models to display.

Jaime

[jlgrove]

I like Jaime's idea of a "display area"....and maybe as a little incentive for folks to bring items, maybe a simple "Honorable Mention" award by popular vote.....

[S&S RR]

John

Hotel is wifi in venue space, common areas  & hotel rooms

You get pass word when you check in!!

\Is this what you mean???

Robert

My issue was making sure we didn't have a problem like we did in Pittsfield with the extremely slow internet that dropped every few minutes requiring us to renter the password.  I actually went to a holiday Inn we stayed at before the convention 12 miles south of Pittsfield and accomplished a download of my pictures while we were having dinner that didn't happen in 12 hours at the convention hotel.

[robertseckler]

John

Hotel is wifi in venue space, common areas  & hotel rooms

You get pass word when you check in!!

\Is this what you mean???

Robert

My issue was making sure we didn't have a problem like we did in Pittsfield with the extremely slow internet that dropped every few minutes requiring us to renter the password.  I actually went to a holiday Inn we stayed at before the convention 12 miles south of Pittsfield and accomplished a download of my pictures while we were having dinner that didn't happen in 12 hours at the convention hotel.

John

As far as I know this should not be a problem

But you are correct we did have a issue in Pitts-field w/ Internet dropping out.
I will make sure that the Hilton is on top of it!!

[robertseckler]

I like Jaime's idea of a "display area"....and maybe as a little incentive for folks to bring items, maybe a simple "Honorable Mention" award by popular vote.....

Jeff/Jamie

I like the idea.

I will work on it

Do not know if it will be a category but maybe!!

Someone wanted to display this year I just got swamped in contest room dealing w/ other issues

Sorry

[ranny9]

I'm about to express unpopular opinion so be warned.

Why should the best builders in the hobby step out of a contest so a "beginner" can "compete"? I go to Expo to view the best of the best in the contest room. I mean, who would go to the Super Bowl to watch their church league football teams compete?

Jaime

That's not what I meant, and I apologize for being unclear. What I would like to see is the "best builders" submit NEW dioramas, models, photos,  not recycled winning entries, or photos.

[halrey]

Robert, didn't we talk about an area called the Model's Gallery, where any one could bring a model or diorama just for display.  Even manufactures could display models?

Maybe Doug and I talked about it...
This old age stuff is for the birds, but it does beats the alternative!

Hal

[coors2u]

I for one am looking forward to throwing my hat into the competition ring. I'm just glad I have enough time to decided what I want to enter.

[robertseckler]

Robert, didn't we talk about an area called the Model's Gallery, where any one could bring a model or diorama just for display.  Even manufactures could display models?

Maybe Doug and I talked about it...
This old age stuff is for the birds, but it does beats the alternative!

Hal

Hal

We did briefly talk about it.

I think it is a great idea and we should promote it more for EXPO 2015

[robertseckler]

I for one am looking forward to throwing my hat into the competition ring. I'm just glad I have enough time to decided what I want to enter.

Dustin

Glad to here you will be entering the contest next EXPO

Please feel free to ask any questions or comments