CCK Doc Koontz Build

[ACL1504]

Rich also sent a few photo of the original kit. He advised this one was sold on Ebay.

Not as well made as the one George built.


Done for today.

[deemery]

I do like the brick version better, if you could pull that off with the kit parts...

dave

[PRR Modeler]

The second one looks like it has very oversized windows on the second floor.

[ACL1504]

I do like the brick version better, if you could pull that off with the kit parts...

dave

Dave,

I do also. I have no idea who made the first version. This will be fun challenge for me.

I like the brick version but if you look at them both, the brick version is much different.

Tom

[ACL1504]

The second one looks like it has very oversized windows on the second floor.

Curt,

It does appear so for sure. They are large windows but still fit the structure.

Tom 

[ACL1504]

I mentioned I spent several hours looking over the diagrams and parts.

Well, I spent a few more hours doing the same. Finally, it all started to come together for me.

This next photo shows the parts that go on both upper bay windows.

I figured out the unmarked parts were parts #53. I marked the number on the part.



Notice anything else wrong with the carrier sheet?

The upper part of T1 and T2 are not laser cut all the way across like the parts below them. I'll need to cut them myself. No problem.

[PRR Modeler]

For such a high quality manufacturer there seems to be a lot of issues.

[ACL1504]

Each bay window is made up of 13 parts. However, I could only find 12 parts. Then I found them on the thicker sheet of parts.

The two parts are on the lower right side of this sheet.



These are both part #116.



Here are the 13 parts that make up one bay window. Of course, the doesn't include the corbels.

[ACL1504]

For such a high quality manufacturer there seems to be a lot of issues.

Curt,

I agree, this isn't one of Jeff's better kits.

Tom

[Pennman]

Rich also send a few photo of the original kit. He advised this one was sold on Ebay.

Not as well made as the one George built.


Done for today.

Tom,

My Bad,
I searched again today the pictures I sent earlier thinking the second one sold on Ebay, No. It was actually found on Facebook, here's the original caption, and date:

The Craftsman Courtyard
Jeff Grove
 ·
September 25, 2021
 ·
.....by popular request....our old Doc Koontz store now in brick....thanks to Stephen Milley at Rail-Scale Models, we've converted this structure to prototypical brick.....a nice, tough to build craftsman kit....with exceptional results....great window details and effects.....

I'm still unknowing who the builder was, unless it was Jeff Grove.

Rich

[ACL1504]

Rich,

I checked Stephen RSM site and found no mention of this kit. He does offer some of Jeff's old kits with his permission to release.

I'll call Jeff later this afternoon and get the history, if any on this kit. I know this kit was on the F&SM layout in 2016 when I last visited George. Also, the kit on the F&SM is definitely not like the brick one shown below. The front is very similar but the rear is totally different.

The two huge bay windows don't really look like they would be on a wood walled structure. 

Tom

[ACL1504]

I forgot to mention that this kit is discussed on Jeff Grove's layout tour. You can see and hear the information at the 5:20 mark in the video.

Apparently, many versions of this kit were done by a few manufacturers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooMLHovLxoQ

Tom

[Pennman]

Rich,

I checked Stephen RSM site and found no mention of this kit. He does offer some of Jeff's old kits with his permission to release.

I'll call Jeff later this afternoon and get the history, if any on this kit. I know this kit was on the F&SM layout in 2016 when I last visited George. Also, the kit on the F&SM is definitely not like the brick one shown below. The front is very similar but the rear is totally different.

The two huge bay windows don't really look like they would be on a wood walled structure.

Tom

Tom,
Maybe when you speak to Jeff, he may have a scan of the instructions for the kit.
You may not need them with you're being a prolific modeler, but they might come in handy.

Rich

[ACL1504]

I spoke with Jeff Grove this afternoon. It was great getting caught up again.

I didn't ask for any instructions as I really don't need them and probably wouldn't follow them. His exploded diagrams are enough for the better than average modeler to follow in building the kit.

He did say Stephen Milley of RSM cut the brick walls for him since Jeff had him laser cutting other brick walls.

We laughed when I said he never liked writing instructions. I did tell him I was building the kit on this forum and invited him to follow along.

So, I'm going to proceed with the wood walls as it will be just another build for me, even as a challenge.

My plan is to build this structure in three phases or sub assemblies. The main structure, both bay windows and the turret style windows.

Tom

[Pennman]

Tom,

I'm glad you have it all figured out and I had no doubt you wouldn't find a path.
I'll be looking forward to how you proceed with this build.

Rich