East End Market

Started by Erieman, January 03, 2015, 10:34:47 AM

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Erieman

Quote from: bparrish on August 22, 2015, 09:56:55 PM
Frank.....

I'll tell you again.  Great building.

See ya
Bob

bob,

Thank you for your kind words. glad you are enjoying the build. Should be done in a couple more weeks. WHEW.Then it will be ready for our regional convention. Speaking of conventions, all the best with your beautiful steam engine build. You put a lot of time, effort and love into that build and it shows. you have done a marvelous job. Structures are easy compared to the work it takes to build an engine like that. Keep us informed on the results. The Nationals are right around the corner. Best of luck.

Frank / Erieman 

Erieman



Good Evening,

After a small hiatus from the structure, I am back at it. Today I added the East End Market sign. The first attempt, the lettering was too large, so after returning home a couple hours later ( working on convention issues) I pulled off the larger name plate with some issues. The sign is made from cardstock and the glue had dried real well. No major damage, just the time to remove the glue, cardstock, etc..New sign is in and looks like it belongs there. Next was the window in the lower portion of the middle area of the building. I also had to build an awning and bracket. Done. Finally on the left end off the building I added a window and door. I still have to build another small shed roof abutment, just like the one over the garage, over the door and window.

I do need some help and would like some ideas. The metal roof is sprayed with 3m mounting cement. The roof base is cardstock. For some reason, the metal roof is not sticking real well. Before my implementing my next idea, I thought I would ask everyone on the forum for suggestions. My next thought is to find a strong double sided tape. Suggestions welcome. I need something ASAP. Would want something that is available anywhere, an art store, Home Depot, etc... I am prepared to remove the existing metal roofing, discard them and start anew. I just don't want the metal buckling. Judges don't like that. Thank you in advance for any ideas.

Frank / Erieman


Janbouli

I would try double sided carpet tape, it has just a little thickness to it compared to transfer tape . And in stead of putting tape on the whole roof , overlap the tape like you do the roofing panels. Try out on a piece of cardstock , see if you like it.
I love photo's, don't we all.

ACL1504

Frank,

I'm surprised the 3M double sided tape doesn't work. I've used it on several roofs and none of them have ever lifted or come off. I'm concerned the double sided carpet tape may be a little to thick but then I've never used it so I'm only guessing.

The building looks wonderful.

Tom ;D
"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

Erieman

Quote from: ACL1504 on August 25, 2015, 09:02:06 AM
Frank,

I'm surprised the 3M double sided tape doesn't work. I've used it on several roofs and none of them have ever lifted or come off. I'm concerned the double sided carpet tape may be a little to thick but then I've never used it so I'm only guessing.

The building looks wonderful.

Tom ;D

Tom,

You are the man. Double sided tape is the answer. I made a small test fixture and it works great. Thanks the good news. the bad news is now I have to get the rubber cement off the cardstock. Another fun day in paradise ( in the train room that is). Have a great day. hope everything goes well with the doctor and the stitch removal. Just try to keep that hand in your pocket for the next couple of weeks and your recovery will be a lot smoother.  Have a great day in the train room.

Frank / Erieman

ACL1504

Frank,

This probably isn't the place for this repsonse but here goes. The second set of stitches came out this morning. The bad news is that the Dr. didn't like the look of the healing so I'm back in a cast for two more weeks. The Dr. orders are, "DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE,  MOVE THE WRIST TO STRETCH THE TOP OF YOUR RIGHT HAND. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE ARE YOU TO GET THE SITE WET".

I'm back on two different antibiotics. Now, I need a pill for being bumed out for two more weeks. :'( :'( :'( :'(

Cheers, I guess. I'm still breathing.

Tom :'(
"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

Tom Langford
telsr1@aol.com

Erieman

Quote from: ACL1504 on August 25, 2015, 02:55:11 PM
Frank,

This probably isn't the place for this repsonse but here goes. The second set of stitches came out this morning. The bad news is that the Dr. didn't like the look of the healing so I'm back in a cast for two more weeks. The Dr. orders are, "DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE,  MOVE THE WRIST TO STRETCH THE TOP OF YOUR RIGHT HAND. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE ARE YOU TO GET THE SITE WET".

I'm back on two different antibiotics. Now, I need a pill for being bumed out for two more weeks. :'( :'( :'( :'(

Cheers, I guess. I'm still breathing.

Tom :'(

OUCH!!! That's enough to make you take up drinking. Instead of the cast, you should have asked him if you could just put your hand in your pocket to limit your movement. That way you could still play pool. oops... sorry to hear about the Dr. visit. Drugs and a cast. Bummer. Let's hope that the drugs kick in soon and last for the next two weeks.

On the bright side, I want to thank you and Raymo for some guidance on the metal roof. I took the old roof off because the rubber cement was just not working. I found some 1/2 double sided tape on my bench ( that is a real surprise because it took me a couple of hours cleaning to find it. My bench is a total mess.). After affirming that the test piece of double sided tape really worked to my satisfaction, I sent Raymo a text message re: the color of the roof. I found a light grey that goes very well with the building. I have started on the backside of the roof and like both the color and that fact that the roof is staying very flat. The judges will appreciate that. So-o-o, to Dan and Tom, thank you for your guidance.   

Frank / Erieman

GPdemayo


Hi Frank.....you know Tom, always the overachiever in everything he does!  ;D 
 
By the way, I noticed you installed the corrugated roof with the channels running vertically from eave to ridge. I thought they were supposed to be installed horizontally so that the channels slowed down the water so if someone were standing under it they wouldn't get hit so hard. Just a thought!  ::) 
 
The building is looking great.  8)
Gregory P. DeMayo
General Construction Superintendent Emeritus
St. Louis & Denver Railroad
Longwood, FL

Erieman

Quote from: GPdemayo on August 26, 2015, 08:43:55 AM

Hi Frank.....you know Tom, always the overachiever in everything he does!  ;D 
 
By the way, I noticed you installed the corrugated roof with the channels running vertically from eave to ridge. I thought they were supposed to be installed horizontally so that the channels slowed down the water so if someone were standing under it they wouldn't get hit so hard. Just a thought!  ::) 
 
The building is looking great.  8)

Good Morning Greg,

Sorry to hear Tom's doctor report. They might have put an anchor around his neck. I wonder if the new cast is going to slow him down. He probably wanted to hit the doctor after he applied the new cast. Isn't the plaster impregnated material we use the same as on his cast? HMMMM. Just saying.

Okay, now let's talk about standing rib seam corrugation roofing. Maybe they do things differently in Florida, but I have always seen it running vertically to shed the water, not retain it. In this buildings case, it is to shed the snow. Anyways, that is what the building looks like in person. Take a look at the photos at the beginning of the post. I solved the warping problem after talking to Tom. I removed the material, removed the rubber cement and then applied double sided tape and this works great. I just need to finish the ridge pieces and the roof will be done. Next up is the two front porches, groan...
Thanks for stopping by.

Frank / Erieman


Janbouli

I want one of these kits  ;) ;) ;)
I love photo's, don't we all.

Erieman

Quote from: Janbouli on August 26, 2015, 03:30:13 PM
I want one of these kits  ;) ;) ;)

Jan,

You will have to contact Groovy Jeff about this building. I sent him the plans and he is currently looking what and how he is going to design this building. I think Jeff is enjoying retirement, but will be working on plans for this structure in HO. Thank you for your kind words about the structure.

Frank / Erieman


Erieman

"The devil is in the details" So-o-o, I have been working on the gutter and hangers at the back of one of the small buildings. The gutter was formed over a piece of solid rod using plain foil sheet from Builders in Scale. The brackets are made from Detail Associates flat bar.Now that the hanger brackets are installed, I can complete the rolled roofing on both roofs. In the background you see the main chimney. there are three other smaller chimneys on the roof. All are installed but need to be caulked around each chimney. I talked with ACL1504 yesterday and he gave me a couple of ideas on how to do this. I'll explain a with text and a photo later. I found some bird that i will be installing on the roof. I am know for my buildings with birds. I take a lot of kidding about what kind of birds they are - pigeons or seagulls. I just smile. :)

While looking at the picture, I realize that there should tarpaper UNDER the brackets as well, so excuse me while I remove the brackets, tarpaper the roof and reinstall the brackets later. My bad.

Frank / Erieman

Erieman



Thought I would post the pic of the corrected gutter on the back of the building. With some weathering, this baby will be great. Might get into some weathering this afternoon, or not. Enjoy the pic.

Frank / Erieman

Erieman

with a little weathering, here is the pic of the gutter and back of the building. Enjoy.

Frank / Erieman


Raymo

#254
I'd have to say that it looks true to prototype. :)

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