FOS Red Bird Taxi -2022 Build Challenge

Started by ACL1504, December 09, 2021, 05:25:12 PM

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Opa George

I'd never heard the term before, and always assumed (naively) those horizontal pieces were to simply add stablity to the studs.
Here is an excellent article explaining and illustrating their use and importance:

https://www.oneprojectcloser.com/fire-stops-fire-blocking-in-studs/

The things I learn here...amazing.
---Opa George
George Nagle
Twin Mountain Barge & Navigation Co.
Harrisburg, PA

Mark Dalrymple

I believe now that plasterboard with bracing qualities are common, firestops are also necessary as part of the nailing Patten specified.  Here in NZ dwangs are put in at 800mm and 1600mm for a 2.4m ceiling height.  If the ceiling is higher there is another row at 2.4m.  They also keep the studs straight, which is again necessary for wallboard products with standard dimensions, as well as adding strength, aiding bracing and stopping fires!  They also help keep the insulation from falling out the walls before you get them lined.  I'm sure there are other uses?

Cheers, Mark.

Jim Donovan

I like it. You have a gift for making things straightforward and the results are as good as it gets. Firestops, going to have to remember that name.

Jim D
Holland & Odessa Railroad

GPdemayo

FYI Jim.....here in the Florida any stud wall over 8' high needs to have blocking or "firestop" horizontally about half way up the wall.  :)
Gregory P. DeMayo
General Construction Superintendent Emeritus
St. Louis & Denver Railroad
Longwood, FL

ACL1504

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Quote from: S&S RR on December 24, 2021, 10:32:00 AM
Tom


Some very fine modeling here, my friend. I also like the colors.


John,

Thank you for the nice compliment. The color are a nice blend.

Tom  ;D
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Quote from: Oldguy on December 24, 2021, 10:51:37 AM
Looking good.  And as always, a bunch of learnin' thrown in for good measure.


Bob,

Thanks very much. Happy to have you get some "learnin" on the way. I've learned so much from this forum and am happy to pass on anything I have.

Tom  ;D
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Quote from: deemery on December 24, 2021, 11:01:46 AM
A pair of 2x8 headers sure sounds prototypical to me! 


dave


Dave,

Probably a 2X6 would be more realistic but I had some 2X8s ready. So, on they went.

Tom  ;D
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Quote from: Mark Dalrymple on December 24, 2021, 01:17:42 PM
Looking good, Tom.

Firestops.  I've never heard them called that before.  Even here in New Zealand (population of 5,000,000) we have two different terms for them.  North Islanders call them noggins while South Islanders call them dwangs.

Cheers, Mark.


Mark, Cheers,

I guess they are firestops on an enclosed wall section but here I should have said they were spacers for the studs as this is an open wall. I like both terms New Zealanders use - noggins and dwangs.

Tom  ;D
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Quote from: Opa George on December 26, 2021, 04:15:07 PM
I'd never heard the term before, and always assumed (naively) those horizontal pieces were to simply add stablity to the studs.
Here is an excellent article explaining and illustrating their use and importance:

https://www.oneprojectcloser.com/fire-stops-fire-blocking-in-studs/

The things I learn here...amazing.
---Opa George


George,

They serve a dual purpose both as firestops and stability for the studs. They are commonly referred to as spacers.

Thanks for the article, good for those who lack the knowledge. As they say, "Now you know"!

Tom  ;D
"If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
Thomas Jefferson

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ACL1504

Quote from: Mark Dalrymple on December 26, 2021, 05:16:51 PM
I believe now that plasterboard with bracing qualities are common, firestops are also necessary as part of the nailing Patten specified.  Here in NZ dwangs are put in at 800mm and 1600mm for a 2.4m ceiling height.  If the ceiling is higher there is another row at 2.4m.  They also keep the studs straight, which is again necessary for wallboard products with standard dimensions, as well as adding strength, aiding bracing and stopping fires!  They also help keep the insulation from falling out the walls before you get them lined.  I'm sure there are other uses?

Cheers, Mark.

Mark, Cheers,

Interesting information, thanks. Now I know a little about NZ building codes.

Tom  ;D
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Quote from: Jim Donovan on December 26, 2021, 10:20:12 PM
I like it. You have a gift for making things straightforward and the results are as good as it gets. Firestops, going to have to remember that name.

Jim D


Jim,

Thanks for the compliment and for stopping by even though you are "cruising".

Tom  ;D
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Quote from: GPdemayo on December 27, 2021, 08:12:39 AM
FYI Jim.....here in the Florida any stud wall over 8' high needs to have blocking or "firestop" horizontally about half way up the wall.  :)


Greg,

Of course, me being a Firestarter, I wouldn't have the firestops in my walls.  :-X :-X

Tom  ;D
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Well, I didn't get back to the thread when I said I would. To much 1:1 stuff during the holidays.

I glued the rafters to the underside of the open air garage roof.



When dry, actually the next day, I  cut and glued on the galvanized pieces. I used 3M double sided tape for this.

Also, in the photo you can see a dark paint spot. I had some AK Interactive track wash and wanted to see what it looked like on the roof.



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