Scratchbuilding a PRR 'FM' 40' flat in HO brass

Started by jbvb, January 02, 2025, 01:18:50 PM

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I have '1mm x 0.3mm' brass tube from Precision Metals (which might now be part of K&S). It's .020 inside diameter, so worked as brake pipe connectors. I wrapped a copper zip cord strand around the bend for an angle cock and flattened the end to make a gladhand. There are nicer looking commercial products but this will survive operating.
James

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I cut another wheel off the Cal-Scale 190-289 sprue; it was cored for an .020 shaft. I punched a .0625 disk of .010 brass with a Micro-Mark die set, drilled it and soldered both to a phosphor bronze shaft, about 40" apart. The stirrup support and chain waited till the deck was done. So I filled my ultrasonic cleaner with well water and a sprinkle of trisodium phosphate for fluid:

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The brake gear's epoxy was setting as I shot the photo. I used some extra to better secure one of the truck mount tubes; the frame had risen up when I retracted the drill bit, making the hole a bit loose.

Moving this thread from RR-Line to this point has taken a couple of hours, so time consuming but not impossible.
James

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deemery

Looking at this thread again...  I wonder if you have the risk of intermittent shorts with the trucks rubbing against the bolsters.  Maybe that can be resolved with paint.

dave
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James,

Oh man, very impressive. I love all things brass. Fantastic brass modeling my friend.

Tom
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Thanks, all.  The work above was done between Feb. 17 and March 25, 2021. Then I wasn't satisfied with the first decals I applied, plus I decided I needed to apply rivet decals if it was going to be judged. And the track work season began at Seashore Trolley Museum just after I'd installed the timber deck....
James

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The painted flat car before I installed the deck. I used ancient Floquil 'Boxcar Red' from a can I'd gotten from a modeler's estate:

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And some comments on how I solder copied from the original thread:

1. I own NoKorode paste flux but haven't used it for models or track work since I discovered Tix flux 25 years ago. I find the grease base very tricky to clean up. I haven't been bothered by Tix going where I don't want it; you can always use a smaller brush than the one that comes with the bottle. And there is Tix 'Anti Flux", which keeps solder from wetting surfaces. I first used it a bit on this job, but I can't say I'm expert yet.

 2. I couldn't have done this without sweat-soldering. Only the flange/sill joints were heated and touched with wire solder. The coated parts don't fit perfectly until I apply pressure to the joint as I heat with the tweezers. When 360F is reached, it all liquefies and the parts go to their final positions.

3. I'm using 63/37 Tin/Lead, which is 'eutectic' (melts all at once at 360F/183C). I had a .032 diameter rosin core Radio Shack roll upstairs, so that's all I used. Downstairs I have a finer Kester dispenser, because that was where I built most of my signals. Yes, you mustn't put your fingers in your mouth while working with it. I find 50:50 inferior, and wouldn't even use it on full size plumbing pipes. And I was once sold a coil of 'lead free' that I only use for filling in switch frogs. I think lead-free plumbing solders have improved in 25 years, but I haven't experimented.

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The deck, cut from Northeastern Scale Lumber 3x6 (HO) stock.
James

jbvb

I stained the HO scale 3x6 basswood deck with Minwax Dark Walnut and let the wood sit on a window sill till it felt dry. I spent a little while thinking about how to assemble the deck. I played with transfer tape, thinking about putting it on the underside of the wood. I decided the exposed stickum would accumulate dust.

Next I tried thinning Walthers Goo with Methyl Ethyl Ketone -- I have it for solvent welding styrene. I squeezed a blob of Goo into a metal palette dish and tried mixing MEK in. Mixed results; MEK is way too volatile for a stable mix, the texture was changing every couple of minutes. And even with the window open, the fumes were noticeable. Seems some are dipping a brush in Goo, then in MEK. I was dipping a wire in the Goo/MEK mix and painting the tops of the stringers.

At any rate, I like how it turned out - few threads and no blobs or threads visible from below:

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The Goo bond has stood up to handling while decaling, Solvaset while undoing the first decal job, and trimming the projecting ends of a dozen boards.
James

jbvb

The last brass part was the bracket supporting the bottom of the brake staff:

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The fine copper wire came from zip cord.

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A little eye exercise installing it. A loop of copper wire holds the chain to the bottom of the brake staff.
James

jbvb

And here the epoxy that will hold the stirrup to the frame and floor is curing, with a little dab to retain the brake staff.

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I lettered it with a mix of decals,  which I wasn't at all satisfied with. And Seashore was demolishing an old carbarn to replace it with new, and I was knee deep in dismantling the old track, storing it and reinstalling it for the new barn. So it sat for almost 3 years.
James

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 James, really neat modeling on this brass flat car ! Hope you earn all the merit awards needed for the award.
Tommy
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deemery

That's almost enough to make me try a brass flat car!  Well Done!

dave
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