The Atlantic and Southern Build Thread Continued, Part 3

[ACL1504]

Good Morning Tom,


I have stopped using Krylon because all my recent experiences with it have been bad. They continue to use poorly ground pigments and even after shaking the can for quite a long time, i can have a can that does not deliver paint,it just drools. I complained to the local Ace store and they indicated that Krylon was having production issues.


I have been using flat black from Walmart. Not only is it inexpensive, it covers very well. The Walmart brand is called ColorPlace. I also use the Walmart grey primer called Home Shades. This product is not  found in all stores, but can be ordered thru the Walmart website and delivered to any store you want. I typically buy 6 can at once. I have had no problems with either color. And best of all, they are cheap.


I like the Tamiya paint. They use a very well designed spray nozzle and the pigments are very well ground, producing a very fine spray. They are just expensive.


Frank / Erieman

Top of the morning Frank,

The Krylon River Rock gave me no problems at all. Sprayed evenly, no crazing, orange peal or over spray/dripping. However, I must say the Rust-Oleum I used for the water tower worked as well as spraying Floquil. It does appear to be thick when sprayed but dries to an thin even covering.

I'll try some Walmark if I ever get to one of the stores.

Cheap is good and the Rust-Oleum Painter's Touch is priced between cheap and Tamiya expensive.

Tom

[NKP768]

I might add that the Krylon acted almost like a lacquer base in that if sprayed too heavy it would craze the plastic - on the parts that mattered I would spray a base coat of the Krylon primer which effectively sealed the plastic. Again numerous light coats were the ticket. In all cases the paint dried to the touch in 10 minutes and I was able to work and handle the parts after a couple of hours of simple air drying. Do not use any quick drying attempts (heat lamps/hair dryer) as this results in the paint pulling away from any hard corner or edges.

Doug

[postalkarl]

Hey Tom:

Both models look just great. Don't forget some pics on the layout.

Karl

[ACL1504]

I might add that the Krylon acted almost like a lacquer base in that if sprayed too heavy it would craze the plastic - on the parts that mattered I would spray a base coat of the Krylon primer which effectively sealed the plastic. Again numerous light coats were the ticket. In all cases the paint dried to the touch in 10 minutes and I was able to work and handle the parts after a couple of hours of simple air drying. Do not use any quick drying attempts (heat lamps/hair dryer) as this results in the paint pulling away from any hard corner or edges.

Doug

Doug,

Thanks for the info on the Krylon paint.

I'm really impressed with the Rust-Oleum Painter's Touch paint. I've seen it used in MRR in a few articles where the item being sprayed was plastic.

Tom

[ACL1504]

Hey Tom:

Both models look just great. Don't forget some pics on the layout.

Karl

Karl,

Thanks as always. More photos will certainly be shown in the coming weeks.

Tom

[Lynnb]

Looks good painted. Do you airbrush? A friend who I refer to as a professional airbrusher had demonstrated to me how to airbrush plastic and it came out great, me on the other hand am clueless with an airbrush .

[ACL1504]

Looks good painted. Do you airbrush? A friend who I refer to as a professional airbrusher had demonstrated to me how to airbrush plastic and it came out great, me on the other hand am clueless with an airbrush .

Lynn,

Thank you and yes, I do air brush. I have plenty of Floquil paints I still use but went with the rattle can to save the Grimy, Weathered and Flat Black Floquil paints.

I've seen plastic brush painted and it crazes most plastics. Air brushing doesn't unless you spray to thick a coat.

Tom

[ACL1504]

In today's Baggage Car thread, it was mentioned that "Greg Crumbs" may be inclined to drop some "raisin crumbs" in the Atlantic and Southern RR turntable pit area.

Apparently "Greg Crumbs" has a following. I received a call from PennsyJ1 relating that his wife, Kris, was using his desk. She had quite the episode with a pencil eraser and brushed the "eraser crumbs" into Bill's desk drawer. When Bill came in she tried to blow them out. Well, things just don't disappear when you blow on them. They still, in this case, find the tiny spaces and corners of the drawer.

Now we have "Greg Crumbs" and "Eraser Kris".

How is all this dribble related to railroad modeling? Simple put, it isn't.

Tom

[PennsyJ1]

Sorry about the dribble, but it seems you are now the expert on getting things out of tight spaces or did Greg do the right thing and clean up the mess. Either way can one of you experts come help me with my drawer. This is below my pay grade to handle. Thank you for your support in advance.

[Blazeman]

I've had a good experience with rattle cans of Valspar Color Radiance paint/primer, safe for plastic.  For a grimy black, I use the "Blindfold" color, #86021.  Only available at Loew's to my knowledge.  When I purchased a couple cans the other year, went on the Loew's site and searched for it.  It told me which stores had it in inventory.  In my instance, first time, they had none.  A couple days later, success.

First time I tried it, didn't shake it enough and product dried powdery and would flake off the sample sheet of cardboard I experimented with.  A longer, vigorous shaking did the trick.  From a Bar Mills kit, used it for the "rolled roofing" strips.  Dried nicely and and the color is truly a grimy black. Also used it on an Atlas bridge with a good result and effect.

[ACL1504]

Sorry about the dribble, but it seems you are now the expert on getting things out of tight spaces or did Greg do the right thing and clean up the mess. Either way can one of you experts come help me with my drawer. This is below my pay grade to handle. Thank you for your support in advance.

Bill,

I'll bring my little vacuum and take care of it. Better yet, I'll let Kris use it since she caused the problem.

Tom

[ACL1504]

I've had a good experience with rattle cans of Valspar Color Radiance paint/primer, safe for plastic.  For a grimy black, I use the "Blindfold" color, #86021.  Only available at Loew's to my knowledge.  When I purchased a couple cans the other year, went on the Loew's site and searched for it.  It told me which stores had it in inventory.  In my instance, first time, they had none.  A couple days later, success.

First time I tried it, didn't shake it enough and product dried powdery and would flake off the sample sheet of cardboard I experimented with.  A longer, vigorous shaking did the trick.  From a Bar Mills kit, used it for the "rolled roofing" strips.  Dried nicely and and the color is truly a grimy black. Also used it on an Atlas bridge with a good result and effect.

Larry,


Thanks for the information on the Valspar (Lowe's) paint. I'll give it a try. Also, Scalecoat II is good for plastics. However, since the newer formula has been added to Scalecoat, I haven't tried it.




Tom

[Judge]

Well, Saturday on the A&S was a short day due to the CEO's afternoon Christmas festivities.  I arrived a few minutes late but in time for wonderful treats home-made by Tom's "Babe."  She even gave me a box to take home, along with a peanut butter pie that is to die for.  New rules prohibit food and drink past the office area and into the layout room.  Thanks a lot Greg!

I have been tasked with "populating" our passenger cars.  I started a couple of years ago and we have completed a number of them.  The project has been on hold during construction in recent months. But there is still a long way to go.  So, I have taken several L&N and IC cars back to my car shop in Sanford and will have them ready to go next Saturday.

Anyway, our railroading activities yesterday were limited to inspection of passenger trains and some switching.  We spent our pie cards at the local Harvey House (Smokey Bones) and called it a day.

Next Saturday will see busier railroad activity.  We are also going to try to visualize how to lay track coming off of the ovalix on the third level.  Some say a custom cross-over will be needed due to the 44 inch curve required to back passenger cars into the Jacksonville Union Station.  Others think we can get around it somehow.  We will have to wait and see.

Merry Christmas.

The Judge

[ACL1504]

Saturday was indeed a very short one but also very busy.

The Atlantic and Southern RR Ticket Agent informed the CEO that revenue needed to be increased. Three L&N and two IC passenger cars were sent to the car shop in Sanford, Fl. for some modifications. These modifications included the removal of a portion of the  interior walls to facilitate the installation of new LED lighting. With the interior modifications and new lighting, the A&S Ticket Agent is confident passengers and revenue will substantially increase.

The Babe did bring out some Christmas goodies to snack on and sent some home with the Ticket Agent.

The Atlantic and Southern Executive Offices are closed for Christmas Holidays and will reopen later this week.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all who may stumble upon this thread.

[GPdemayo]

.....Thanks a lot Greg!.....

No comment.....you know how Tom gets all upset with us when we get off topic on his thread.....