Superior & Seattle Railroad Build (Volume 4) Started 8/14/21

[S&S RR]

Hey John:

That's A great kitty. I test built it. My friend Jon has it for his RR. His Rr is about the same size as the F&SM. Can't to see what you do with it. Looks great so far.

Karl

Karl


It is a great kit, I'm really enjoying the build.


It sure would be nice to see some updated photographs of your friend Jon's layout.    It sure was impressive the last time you posted pictures.

[S&S RR]

John, those extra boards make me feel much better, for a couple of reasons:  (1) You thought my nagging was worth doing :-)  (2) It shows some 'deliberate intent' in the model for keeping the coal out of the river, (3) it breaks up the long run of stone a bit, which I think helps the scene overall.

dave

Dave


There are a lot of great modelers with great ideas on this forum - that is one of the reasons I take the time to post.  I agree with you that the wood helps break up the all stone look.  You will find a second board on my next update photograph.  Thank you for the suggestion.


I started the water today, and I really hope it looks better after it dries. I'm using a new material and it sure looks weird as it dries.  I'm taking pictures and will have a full report. It has a long way to go before it doesn't qualify for a do over.

[S&S RR]

Update: So I returned from my fishing trip to find that the water I poured before leaving dried to look like milk. I tried a new product that was highly recommended, but it sure didn't work for me. Since I think build threads should contain things gone wrong along with the things gone right I will post some pictures and a description of the process I used, maybe someone will be able to spot the cause of the problems.


First here is a picture of the bottle the product came in. In the words of the person that recommended it you pour it just like two part resign.  I was cautions and poured a very thing coat for the first pour. I actually measured the thickness when I removed the material and it was .030 inch.

[S&S RR]

So here is what I had after 6 days of drying time.

[Bernd]

John,

I was looking for a use date. Could the material have been old stock without you knowing it? The only other thing I can think of is could it have frozen. Not knowing how long is has been since it was shipped to the US. Could have come over in the winter in a container and frozen before you got it. Just guessing at some ideas for other products effected by temp.

Looks like it could be a mess to clean up amongst those rocks. Good luck fixing it.

Bernd

[S&S RR]

John,

I was looking for a use date. Could the material have been old stock without you knowing it? The only other thing I can think of is could it have frozen. Not knowing how long is has been since it was shipped to the US. Could have come over in the winter in a container and frozen before you got it. Just guessing at some ideas for other products effected by temp.

Looks like it could be a mess to clean up amongst those rocks. Good luck fixing it.

Bernd

Bernd


I don't see any dates on the bottle.  I purchased it within the last year - no way of knowing the temperature history before I bought it.
I have pictures from just after I poured it and then I will post the removal photographs.

[S&S RR]

Here are some pictures just a few hours after I poured it.














The next morning,

[S&S RR]

The removal went very easy - the material pulled up in one big sheet.  The paint came up with it, leaving the glue base.

[S&S RR]

Here is what it looked like after I pulled up the sheet of material.

[S&S RR]

So after repainting the glue surface I got out some Envirotex Lite that I have had on the shelf for years. I moved the baseboard over by the spray booth and leveled it. Mixed the two part Envirotex Lite and poured. About 15 minutes after I poured it I went over it with a hair dryer to remove a few bubbles.  As of 7 hours after the pour it looks great.  I'm going to be starting any water on my layout with Envirotex Lite.  I will use the medium products for special affects like waves and white water, but I will always start with a base pour of Envirotex Lite.

[S&S RR]

[S&S RR]

You can see the reflection of the tools on my workbench in the glossy finish.  So far no bubbles - we will see what it looks like in the morning.

[Keep It Rusty]

Great save!

And nothing beats Envirotex for reliability.

[Dennis Bourey]

I agree great save. Look's perfect.

[PRR Modeler]

The second pour looks great.